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IfcBuildingElement class attributes

  1. B by bernd on 1 Dec 2020, edited 27 Jan 2023 #

    All building element have som direct attributes which do describe the object but are not in a pset but in the entity directly. A IfcDoor for example has

    Name, Description, ObjectType, OverallHeight , OverallWidth, PredefinedType, OperationType, SINGLE_SWING_LEFT, UserDefinedOperationType

    Is there a possiblility to get all these attributes without implementing the name of them directly? Something like we have with the comon psets definition.

  2. C by Cyril on 1 Dec 2020, edited 1 Dec 2020 # +1 votes
  3. B by bernd on 1 Dec 2020 #

    great :-)

  4. M by Moult on 1 Dec 2020 #

    I noticed that the example in the wiki doesn't include a check for whether the attribute is derived. Note that this can be important if you are doing bulk checks. Use the element.derived() function.

  5. B by bernd on 2 Dec 2020, edited 2 Dec 2020 #

    @Moult said:

    I noticed that the example in the wiki doesn't include a check for whether the attribute is derived.

    What is the difference between a derived attribute and a not derived attribute.

  6. S by stephen_l on 2 Dec 2020 #

    Derived is a parent's class attribute

  7. B by bernd on 2 Dec 2020 #

    not in sense of coding but in sens of ifc. Which class attribute is derived and which not?

  8. C by CadGiru on 2 Dec 2020 #
  9. M by Moult on 2 Dec 2020 # +2 votes

    A described by Wikipedia:

    There are three different kinds of attributes, explicit, derived and inverse attributes. And all these can be re-declared in a subtype. In addition an explicit attribute can be re-declared as derived in a subtype. No other change of the kind of attributes is possible.

    • Explicit attributes are those with direct values visible in a STEP-File.
    • Derived attributes get their values from an expression. In most cases the expression refers to other attributes of THIS instance. The expression may also use EXPRESS functions.
    • Inverse attributes do not add "information" to an entity, but only name and constrain an explicit attribute to an entity from the other end.

    An example may be IfcGeometricRepresentationSubContext, which if you read the express definition, has 4 derived attributes. It is important to check if you are automatically setting attribute values since it is not possible to set a value to a derived attribute.

  10. P by Pit on 16 Jan 2023, edited 16 Jan 2023 #

    Hello to all the contributors. All your responses give a super valueable information.

    I would like to ask if there is any util in ifcopenshell to get the inverse attributes of an entity(python)as they are extremely useful to understand how the element is positionned in the schema and its relations. In the page

    https://wiki.osarch.org/index.php?title=IfcOpenShell_code_examples#Exploring_IFC_schema

    explicit and derived attributes are retrived but I miss a list of the inversed. Any idea?

  11. T by theoryshaw on 23 Jan 2023 # +1 votes

    I'm a newbie, but the following might help. 

    
import bpy

import ifcopenshell

from blenderbim.bim.ifc import IfcStore




Ifc = ifcopenshell.open(IfcStore.path)


wall = Ifc.by_type('IfcWall')[0]

inverse_attribute_classes = Ifc.get_inverse(wall)


for inverse_class in inverse_attribute_classes:

    print(inverse_class)


schema_version = Ifc.wrapped_data.schema


schema = ifcopenshell.ifcopenshell_wrapper.schema_by_name(schema_version)


wallentity = schema.declaration_by_name("IfcWall")


wallentity.all_attributes()


walls_inverse_attributes = wallentity.all_inverse_attributes()

for inverse_attribute in walls_inverse_attributes:

    print(inverse_attribute)


print('x')

    I've attached a BlenderBIM/IFC file to try it out.

    Output...

  12. D by duncan on 27 Jan 2023 # +1 votes

    @Cyril said:

    We had this discussion recently with theoryshaw and Moult. I documented it on wiki

    Awesome that you added it to the wiki!

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