@Herman
The free viewer for SAF https://autoconverter.structuraltoolkit.com/en-GB/saf-viewer looks like Allplan BIMPlus plattform. It seams to be based on the same tools. Does it mean BIMPlus can read SAF too? Would be cool because one could overlay it with the BIM-modell than.
cheers Bernd
@Herman
Is that you?
The coordination is currently managed by SCIA. If you are interested in joining, please contact Herman Oogink, Head of Strategic Alliances at SCIA. Email: h.oogink@scia.net.
BTW: thanks for joining the disscussion and give us some information.
@Herman
Are there examples files around?
@Herman
how about solid analysis? One of the big disatatvantages of IFC structural analysis view is there are only face and line elements. Does SAF supports solid analysis meshes? Loads and constraints on solid geometry?
Some software vendors in structural engineering started to support solid analyisis too. Do not know about SCIA? Solid analysis has some great advantages because it is much simpler to mesh 3D solid geometry directly.
@bernd said:
@Herman
The free viewer for SAF https://autoconverter.structuraltoolkit.com/en-GB/saf-viewer looks like Allplan BIMPlus plattform. It seams to be based on the same tools. Does it mean BIMPlus can read SAF too? Would be cool because one could overlay it with the BIM-modell than.
cheers Bernd
Yes the application is build on top of the Bimplus platform, and it is now the only collaboration platform also supporting the analysis model. In our AutoConverter we can see all models together. Having the physical model transparent and the analysis model together.
@bernd said:
@Herman
how about solid analysis? One of the big disatatvantages of IFC structural analysis view is there are only face and line elements. Does SAF supports solid analysis meshes? Loads and constraints on solid geometry?
Some software vendors in structural engineering started to support solid analyisis too. Do not know about SCIA? Solid analysis has some great advantages because it is much simpler to mesh 3D solid geometry directly.
Concerning solids we didn't focused on it for now. As in our domain, structural analysis, it is not used that common. It is used normally in mechanical analysis but in our domain we have to follow the codes like Eurocode or IBC etc. and they all are based on 1D and 2D members. But indeed in some case it is useful so we have to look at it for sure in the near future.
@bernd said:
@Herman
Is that you?
The coordination is currently managed by SCIA. If you are interested in joining, please contact Herman Oogink, Head of Strategic Alliances at SCIA. Email: h.oogink@scia.net.
BTW: thanks for joining the disscussion and give us some information.
Yes ... so not anonymous anymore ;) But indeed I am Herman Oogink
@Herman said:
@bernd said:
@Herman
The free viewer for SAF https://autoconverter.structuraltoolkit.com/en-GB/saf-viewer looks like Allplan BIMPlus plattform. It seams to be based on the same tools. Does it mean BIMPlus can read SAF too? Would be cool because one could overlay it with the BIM-modell than.
cheers Bernd
Yes the application is build on top of the Bimplus platform, and it is now the only collaboration platform also supporting the analysis model. In our AutoConverter we can see all models together. Having the physical model transparent and the analysis model together.
Will BIM+ support it too?
How about results? Does SAF support results too? If yes, does the viewer displaying results? Nice ideas come in my mind ...
@bernd said:
@Herman said:
@bernd said:
@Herman
The free viewer for SAF https://autoconverter.structuraltoolkit.com/en-GB/saf-viewer looks like Allplan BIMPlus plattform. It seams to be based on the same tools. Does it mean BIMPlus can read SAF too? Would be cool because one could overlay it with the BIM-modell than.
cheers Bernd
Yes the application is build on top of the Bimplus platform, and it is now the only collaboration platform also supporting the analysis model. In our AutoConverter we can see all models together. Having the physical model transparent and the analysis model together.
Will BIM+ support it too?
How about results? Does SAF support results too? If yes, does the viewer displaying results? Nice ideas come in my mind ...
In Bimplus you can also see the analysis model in combination with all other models you upload.
Yes results are uploaded for 1D members but currently only when directly uploaded from SCIA Engineer. We can visualize the results in the SCIA AutoConverter. We have it also in SAF (for 1D members ) but not yet documented..so a bit hidden feature. . The BIMPLUS viewer is only showing geometry and loads no results. For that the SCIA AutoConverter is used.
It would be good to have a page about the different BIM collaboration SAAS offerings and how well they support openBIM. If that makes sense to you @Herman or someone with knowledge go for it! https://wiki.osarch.org
Where we can get SAF example files as in https://saf.guide/ cannot be donwloaded?
On this site for instance you have just Excel screenshots, but no example files to download
https://saf.guide/Default.htm#2_Project%20and%20model%20specifications.htm%3FTocPath%3D_____6
@GRSOFT said:
Where we can get SAF example files as in https://saf.guide/ cannot be donwloaded?
If you double check, you will see a download button on the displayed spreadsheets!
Thank you very much.
Primoz
Hi there,
what happened with SAF guide where we could download excel files? Please provide me feedback on this topic.
Best Regards, Primoz
It seems that SCIA updated the format and now SAF tables are seamlessly integrated within the html. In any case, if you need an Excel file, you could run these Python lines from a local notebook or from Google Colab:
import pandas as pd
import requests
url = 'https://www.saf.guide/structural-analysis-elements/structuralmaterial'
url_content = requests.get(url).content # cannot use pandas directly because it is https
df = pd.read_html(url_content, header=0)[0]
df.to_excel(url.split('/')[-1] + '.xlsx')
CODE NOT WORKING!
Python 3.7.4 (tags/v3.7.4:e09359112e, Jul 8 2019, 20:34:20) [MSC v.1916 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
import pandas as pd
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'pandas'
import requests
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'requests'
url = 'https://www.saf.guide/structural-analysis-elements/structuralmaterial'
url_content = requests.get(url).content # cannot use pandas directly because it is https
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
NameError: name 'requests' is not defined
df = pd.read_html(url_content, header=0)[0]
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
NameError: name 'pd' is not defined
df.to_excel(url.split('/')[-1] + '.xlsx')
Just install pandas or use Colab, where it is already installed.
@GRSOFT said:
Hi there,
what happened with SAF guide where we could download excel files? Please provide me feedback on this topic.
Best Regards, Primoz
Yes that is true. We moved to github platform and here we do not see possibility to embed excel sheets. Also it takes quite some effort to update these excels if we do modifications. What we will do is adding a chapter where we will have an example excel containing as much as possible all objects. Hope that helps.
I tried Colab and run your script, but nothing happened. Other scripts are running without problem. Is there any problem with the code as I have no idea how to get Excel file? Please check the attachment:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q2A4oQBDtnTGXUz8zvwzHkwLlwI_ab-m/view?usp=sharing
Where should Excel file to be save as a result of running your code?
@GRSOFT said:
Where should Excel file to be save as a result of running your code?
It is a result of our unit tests. We can put the result in the documentation.
Can you tell me what is then the purpose of running this code?
import pandas as pd
import requests
url = 'https://www.saf.guide/structural-analysis-elements/structuralmaterial'
url_content = requests.get(url).content # cannot use pandas directly because it is https
df = pd.read_html(url_content, header=0)[0]
df.to_excel(url.split('/')[-1] + '.xlsx')
I suppose it should create Excel file?
@GRSOFT said:
I suppose it should create Excel file?
Yes sure.
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